Comments for We of Hue: together we're a movement http://www.weofhue.com parents of color discussing issues of importance Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Moving from Adversity to Global Action by DM http://www.weofhue.com/moving-from-adversity-to-global-action/#comment-3091 DM Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:12:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4815#comment-3091 I know how frightening this can be.  Life can change in an instant.  What a frightening experience to go through.  Your friend Donna from Believe in Yourself Community I know how frightening this can be.  Life can change in an instant.  What a frightening experience to go through.  Your friend Donna from Believe in Yourself Community

]]> Comment on Seeing Color by On seeing color | We of Hue: together we're a movement http://www.weofhue.com/seeing-color/#comment-3090 On seeing color | We of Hue: together we're a movement Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:24:54 +0000 http://www.momsofhue.com/?p=2252#comment-3090 [...] 34, I am no longer naive enough to believe that skin color doesn’t change things. I see it more as half of an interracial couple and the mother of a [...] [...] 34, I am no longer naive enough to believe that skin color doesn’t change things. I see it more as half of an interracial couple and the mother of a [...]

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Denene Millner http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3088 Denene Millner Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:20:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3088 Great question! Only he can say. I'm glad that he's starting the journey, though.  Great question! Only he can say. I’m glad that he’s starting the journey, though. 

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Kristina Daniele http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3087 Kristina Daniele Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:17:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3087 Yes you are right about people changing their stance - it deserves  acknowledgment but not necessarily praise.  What I realize in discussing this with you is that while the intention of Nick's article was to discus the change that comes with parenthood what comes across is something different hence my comment about praise for delayed maturity. I agree with your husband that the word would have still been used had he not have used it- he is not the root of this. But Jay-Z's relationship with Beyonce is one of the most cherished amongst our community and yet his continued use of the word even after they married seems to negate the union and the respect he has for his wife. In essence he is saying that little girls are sacred but once they become women they are not.Actions speak louder than words and so I wonder how he is going to help repair the damage done? The behavior that he helped to cultivate? Yes you are right about people changing their stance – it deserves  acknowledgment but not necessarily praise. 

What I realize in discussing this with you is that while the intention of Nick’s article was to discus the change that comes with parenthood what comes across is something different hence my comment about praise for delayed maturity.
I agree with your husband that the word would have still been used had he not have used it- he is not the root of this. But Jay-Z’s relationship with Beyonce is one of the most cherished amongst our community and yet his continued use of the word even after they married seems to negate the union and the respect he has for his wife. In essence he is saying that little girls are sacred but once they become women they are not.Actions speak louder than words and so I wonder how he is going to help repair the damage done? The behavior that he helped to cultivate?

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Denene Millner http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3086 Denene Millner Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3086 Actually, history is full of people who took some really hard-line positions on feminism, race, religion, stereotypes, etc., and, with growth, maturity and a dose of reality in their own lives, grew to think differently. I'm not saying that you forget their once hard-line stances, but it is okay to take note of their growth and the actions they took because of it—however they came to that growth. And maybe it didn't take a revelation for you to realize that the "b" word is derogatory, but there are plenty others who need to be shown the light (women included. Do you know how many times during the course of an hour the ladies on reality TV call each other "bitch"? It's disgusting.) Not everyone is as enlightened as you and I (but oh how I wish they were).  BTW: Chiles is my husband, Nick. And, respectfully, he's not praising delayed maturity. He's understanding as a man and father of daughters how one's thinking changes with the birth of your own girls—coming from a place of experience. Actually, history is full of people who took some really hard-line positions on feminism, race, religion, stereotypes, etc., and, with growth, maturity and a dose of reality in their own lives, grew to think differently. I’m not saying that you forget their once hard-line stances, but it is okay to take note of their growth and the actions they took because of it—however they came to that growth. And maybe it didn’t take a revelation for you to realize that the “b” word is derogatory, but there are plenty others who need to be shown the light (women included. Do you know how many times during the course of an hour the ladies on reality TV call each other “bitch”? It’s disgusting.) Not everyone is as enlightened as you and I (but oh how I wish they were). 
BTW: Chiles is my husband, Nick. And, respectfully, he’s not praising delayed maturity. He’s understanding as a man and father of daughters how one’s thinking changes with the birth of your own girls—coming from a place of experience.

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Kristina Daniele http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3085 Kristina Daniele Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3085 This is what I am having trouble understanding Shelly. I just don't get the thinking! Really, I don't! This is what I am having trouble understanding Shelly. I just don’t get the thinking! Really, I don’t!

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Kristina Daniele http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3084 Kristina Daniele Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:51:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3084 Agreed! Agreed!

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Kristina Daniele http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3083 Kristina Daniele Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:44:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3083 Denene- thanks for commenting. I understand the praise of growth and the changes that come about once becoming a parent- really I do. But Chiles' post comes across as yet another praise of delayed maturity. It doesn't take a revelation to realize that the word bitch is derogatory! If  Jessie Helms suddenly denounced his views when alive because his grandchild was half black, would that be OK? Would we applaud him or would we call a spade a spade? Denene- thanks for commenting. I understand the praise of growth and the
changes that come about once becoming a parent- really I do. But
Chiles’ post comes across as yet another praise of delayed maturity. It
doesn’t take a revelation to realize that the word bitch is derogatory!

If 
Jessie Helms suddenly denounced his views when alive because his
grandchild was half black, would that be OK? Would we applaud him or
would we call a spade a spade?

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Kristina Daniele http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3082 Kristina Daniele Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:44:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3082 Yes, it is a good thing that he reassessed it's just not worthy of praise and applauding. Yes, it is a good thing that he reassessed it’s just not worthy of praise and applauding.

]]> Comment on Jay-Z’s Respect: Too Little too Late by Lorri http://www.weofhue.com/jay-zs-respect-too-little-too-late/#comment-3081 Lorri Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:34:00 +0000 http://www.weofhue.com/?p=4746#comment-3081 What you put into the world, you get out. Let's wait and see what his beautiful little girl has to experience in the world as a result of the culture he helped to foster. What you put into the world, you get out. Let’s wait and see what his beautiful little girl has to experience in the world as a result of the culture he helped to foster.

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